Episode 11

Church in Decline? What’s really going on and how to respond with Ryan Burge

This time, Ryan and Brian are talking with Ryan Burge, author of The Nones: Where They Came From, Who They Are, and Where They Are Going. In his book, Ryan looks at survey data to give us more insight into "the nones” — those who don’t declare any specific religious affiliation. While Ryan is accomplished in statistical research, he is also a pastor, which gives him a unique perspective. The discussion focuses on the data, the implications, and how the church could respond. 

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Ryan and Brian's Bible Bistro
A podcast about the Bible, theology, and all things related to the Christian faith. Hosted by Ryan Sarver and Brian Johnson..

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Brian Johnson

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Ryan Sarver

Ryan was a student of Brian’s at Lincoln Christian College almost twenty years ago — not a good student, but a student nonetheless. He graduated with a degree in worship ministry and worked in the local church for several years. Now, Ryan owns and operates a video production and marketing company, telling stories for non-profits and businesses.

Ryan loves reading books on theology and engaging in conversations. He and his wife, Lauren, share two children and live in the Indianapolis area. One of his claims-to-fame is making the best popcorn ever — just ask his kids.

Ryan’s favorite movie is The Tree of Life. He enjoys all kinds of ethnic foods, as well as pour-over coffee — keep your K-cups to yourself 🙂